right now? i suspect it will be. >> maybe it will be but it certainly isn't already. what we're told so far is from nato headquarterers is france has not requested an article four which is consultations to say nothing asking for article five. it's only been used once since 9/11. the fact that there's been no real -- behind that and meetings friday and saturday with russia, with iran and the saudis, those were the first meetings of all 19 of the scountries involved. this is going to be a long process to get iran, russia and the saudis and the united states to agree on a cease fire and on