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to go down. >> hey, pat, it's tom again. >> reporter: the undercover road. the old policeman's trick of using a lie to get at the truth. first pat looked through the interviews he'd already shot before he was dropped from the movie project. for example, the conversation with tom, back when they were making that investor's video, this, it seemed to pat, justified his suspicions. >> what would you want to be done to the person, have you thought about that? >> whatever the court decides. >> right there. whatever the court decide, that's the number one answer of a crime they're usually involved in. subconsciously you don't want to say what is the normal answer, that they should go to jail. >> reporter: as the interview continued, pat heard other suspicious statements. for one thing, that odd story of the way tom's dad told him about jennifer's death. >> i remember that day. i was at a friend's house in charlotte.

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