and they had a real relationship. not everyone would have a prayer card inside their cell. you're allowed so few things, to think this is one of the items you're carrying with you, it must have been meant a lot to you. >> pizzi says he never met goodell and they were housed in different units, but he did once see goodell in the jail from a distance. >> the way vivianna described him to me, he was a big tough guy. he didn't seem like a tough guy to me. in my eyes, i didn't see him hurting nothing, not even a fly. he was like a mouse to an elephant. david's a coward. he's a piece of [ bleep ], you know? he was wrong for what he did. >> but not everyone would agree with pizzi's description of goodell. coming up, david goodell gets a visit from the mother of a former girlfriend. but first -- >> he swung on me and we just got to fighting and picked up a