i talk to people in the clinton campaign at their headquarters during a debate watch party they had and this is a few months ago, talking about how trump helps them. it's like an open secret. they think he illuminates the worst parts of the gop. they would love to be feuding directly with donald trump. i will make a separate point which is i don't really think she lied as much as everyone is saying here. she was speaking somewhat figuratively but the clinton campaign had pointed to rita katz, who is literally the preeminent analyst in this sphere and katz has said, yeah, there's no video, there is no video, but isis is talking about donald trump and they're very happy about his arguments. the same way that clinton feels like trump can help her, isis feels like trump can help them. if rita katz says it, this is a women who gets every isis video first. she has a long record of knowing what they're saying when no one else does. that's a lot of evidence as far as i'm concerned. >> by that standard though when donald trump said that there