learn a lot about what steven avery was like. what was he like? >> i think, and this is what creates doubt, here is a man who did have a checkered past. he was arrested in the past for killing the family pet, the family cat, burning it alive. i mean, this isn't a man -- this man was also accused by the woman that was eventually killed of being a little bit creepy. she apparently didn't want to go to the property the day she went to the property. this is a man that definitely, you know, wasn't necessarily the most liked and apparently the police didn't like him at all to begin with, so it does paint a little bit of a picture there. >> and avery's nephew was also convicted of the same murder. he's also still behind bars. what's his story? >> well, his story is that he was a little bit mentally challenged. there are accusations that the police coerced him into confessing and that he really, you know, should be exonerated based on the fact that at the