non-college white. >> in my past, i worked in politics. and i must say that there's something about the whole ritual, like, concession speeches, which i love. i've said that before. and crying when you lose. these are very important rituals. going to dinner at this time, what you do is -- tip used to do this, my first guy i worked with in '72. owens did this. jack kennedy did this, ben bradley and his buddy, they went up to see a porn movie during the west virginia -- they didn't want to be anywhere near news. >> they went to a porn theater? >> they tried to go to a nice one, that was closed -- >> your nicer ones. >> the nice one. >> so you try to desperately do what we're doing in a different way, hide from the news. you don't want anybody coming in with -- well, with 1% in, that just drives you crazed. tip comes off and said, we lose the house, what happened, what happened? and they all hide. and right now, they're eating somewhere, in a japanese restaurant, you go away -- because they don't want to be here while we're doing that. >> nicole, was that your experience, too? >> in '04, the first wave exit data, i'm sure we're beyond that