from stuff that they may associate with steve bannon and that sort of fuels this. but i want to go back to something susan said. i don't know if that scenario plays out exactly the way you think it -- the way you said it, susan. that you know, reince is going to have that kind of access and control, yes. but i'm not sure he'll be the last or the first person to get in the president's ear with bannon there. that's not how this worked in the campaign. and bannon was so someone, as i understood it, that donald trump really, really looked to, to help him sort of navigate some of these heavier waters. it was reince who did the boots on the ground, the practical, political stuff. but in terms of what the message was and how donald trump was going to lay out his campaign every day, that was steve and the family and trump. >> well, here's something more to worry about. "the wall street journal" reported today that the leading