that's the key word. is the white house staff an agency? the answer is, chris, that nobody knows for sure, but the answer is probably not. the courts have said that for other purposes of other laws, the administrative procedures act, the freedom of information act, the white house staff is not an agency. and in the lawsuit that was brought against hillary clinton's position on the clinton task force in the '90s,s that went up to the court of appeals here. it didn't decide that question either. it decided that case on another basis. but it said, the white house staff is probably not an agency. they noted these other decisions. and they said, you know, even if the nepotism law applies, which it probably doesn't, but even if it does, it says, you can't put these people on the payroll. well, a spouse, a relative could work for nothing. so, the legal experts i've talked to from both parties, legal scholars, say the answer is probably, yes, he probably