david corner. zephyr, is this complex or simple? what should be done? >> it's simple. he's got to sell. he's got to divest. i mean, he -- rightow he is planning to violate the foreign bribery provision of the constitution. what some people call the clause. it's the foreign bribery clause. he's planning on violating that. he's planning on violating basic ethics norms. he's really opening up the presidency of the country to real national security concerns. >> david, the trump team seems to vet this could go away. it doesn't seem to be going away >>well, it's not going away and every day it seems there's a new instance of the ethics violations or conflicts of interest. you know, the president, oddly enough is not covered by any thorough conflict of interest laws, but as zephyr said, there are norms and ethical standards. and when you have -- when you say you're giving your business to kids so you have nothing to do it, which is not true to