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obama has to reverse it. but this is what we see out of the homeland security department is the dismantling of a system that theoretically could be the basis for a muslim ban, a muslim ban, importantly, that just yesterday president-elect trump talked about as it seemed like a good idea that he's been right all along in the context of speaking about that attack in germany. so it does seem like there is a wariness to give the incoming administration tools to do some of the things that the outgoing administration really doesn't agree with. >> just today i think the transition team spoke very highly of the current president's efforts to try to make this transition smooth. do you think that's lip service or do you think there's truth to it? >> president obama has been speaking with president-elect trump. they've been talking about a lot of thins it seems like, but there are clear tension points and not just on all the politics that we've seen going on through the course of this xap.

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