ex-officer and have to believe his russian sources and have to believe the whole thing wasn't cooked up as opo, just negative stuff to hurt somebody. >> salute hi. >> that's a lot to believe. ken dprks ilanian. thank you so much. he'll be back on our show in a half hour about trump and the media. donald trump today also took jabs at the democratic national committee and clinton campaign based on information of the clinton campaign from wikileaks. here he goes. >> the democratic national committee was totally openen to be hacked. they did a very poor job. they could have had hacking defense which we had. we talk about the hacking. hacking's bad. and it shouldn't be done. but look at the things that were hacked. look at what was learned from that hacking that hillary clinton got the questions to the debate and didn't report it. that's a horrible thing. >> joined right now by the managing editor of bloomberg politics, john heilman and the