manipulator. >> i think we're gearing up for a very interesting midterm election. if you go to red meat america, to the heart lands, i think conservatives are very frustrated, a lot of palpable anger and frustration. you saw the divide with the health law. i think he's playing with fire changing positions. we have the red meat tea party activist i guess branch of the party that took him at his word on many of the things he said during the campaign. i think they will not hesitate to be angry with him. >> do you think that's a problem with the america first stuff and the fact that now the trump administration, they hate certain headlines. a lot of the response to bomb dropping or cyber rattling has been good, but that takes us away from their america first mission on the campaign and puts us in the foreign policy sphere that the steve bannon wing