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>> there's the side where the negotiator in him, wants to when he's in those conversations with netanya netanyahu, whomever, kislyak, whomever, he can get the information he has to get he thinks is the best deal. the problem is that's not how our foreign policy works. you keep a lot of stuff to your chest, play your cards very close, don't give an indication where you want to go even with our allies. your point is exactly right. that's the problem. he wants to play the hero role. >> i read the book "the art of the deal" and that is the one big thing i took away from is. those two things ain donald trump's mind, being a negotiator, appearing to be strong and puffed up are the same. he doesn't think he can negotiate unless he shows you how tough -- >> go ahead. >> that's not a good formula. i'm just saying, as a matter of explaining, i think that's the logic. >> go ahead, bianna. >> one missing variable, unlike real estate, donald trump hasn't proven to know anything about the middle east or foreign policy so it's really hard to

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