etiquette basically of washington, and he just doesn't understand what he's doing. he doesn't know where the lines are. maybe he's a little clumsy, but cut him some slack. >> i think there's some truth to that. i think his gross inexperience reflects that. but i also think there are institutional -- there is institutional webbing around him. everything from the attorney general to the whole department of justice to all the other departments within the inner agency group, and he ignores them. he pays no attention to them. he does policy by tweet. this is absurd, and it's dangerous as i indicated before. the institutional checks and balances can't operate on an individual except in a draconian way like article 2 impeachment if he's operating in this sort of inexperienced and yet drive-ahead way. so i take that characterization as probably accurate, but it needs to change, and it needed to change t day he raise his hand and took the oath. >> well, so then what is -- you make a great point here, that