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pulitzer price winner and editor for "the kansas city star." and jamiel is joining with us, contributor for "the daily beast." we just got finished talking about leaks and i'd like to leave the topic there because it's germain. how do you think your readers took to the leaked transcripts and where members of his base are concerned who live around kansas city? do you think it hurt his relationship with them when they saw that he was perhaps less than serious in letting mexico pay for it? >> they certainly started to chip away at some supporters' belief in donald trump because they are counting on him to build a wall but these avalanche of leaks that charlie spoke about starts to become a blur for readers and in kansas city, particularly on the russia

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