but i think he represented the ukraine or ukraine government or somebody. but people knew that. everybody knew that. so these people -- and he said that he has absolutely nothing to do and never has with russia. and he said that very forcefully. i saw his statement. most of the papers don't print it because that's not good for their stories. >> well, i think everybody printed and everybody reported what paul manafort said about russia. what do the latest developments mean to you? >> well, so obviously, there's a significant investigation of paul manafort going on. this criminal investigation being led by the special counsel is going to use every available tool they have available to them, whether that's grand jury subpoenas. the report that i saw today indicated that there were subpoenas to manafort's pr person, possibly a lawyer that worked for him. which is an interesting development. there obviously would be some significant information that the
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