>> kimberly, i have described senator corker on this broadcast as a work horse and not a show horse, a man not normally given to hyperbole. so, having, having said that, what do you think is in it for him? do you think he views this as a straight-up act of patriotism? >> well, what did janice joplin, freedom is another word for nothing left to lose. since he announced he is not running for reelection, he has a lot more freedom to speak very frankly about how he sees this white house. and you're right, this is somebody who doesn't spout off. this is somebody who chooses his words carefully. it is also someone who supported donald trump. he's not a never trump person. and, so, having this, he's expressing -- he's taking on the responsibility of expressing what he's hearing in the republican caucus, sort of giving cover to the other people who are running for reelection