american presidents, pulitzer prizewinning author and presidential historian, jon meacham, who's also an msnbc contributor. you and i are both obligated to quote once a week, so we're off the hook. >> it's actually in the contract. >> thank you for being here. is the plight way to ask this question, is president trump's modern era antithesis bush 41, both in terms of his years of service in the navy, youngest ever. >> the first time herb rt walker bush wrote a letter like this, he was 20 years old because he las two crew members.