government doesn't go out and call its own witness a liar. that's for the defense counsel. >> or comment in any way on criminal proceedings. >> that's right. that is total disregard for the judicial process. under normal circumstances, i think mueller should be going in there and asking for a gag order on this individual. i mean, he has no business interfering with this. i mean, i think where trump is, he sees an indictment of his campaign manager. this indictment is so well written it is so well conceived. it is based purely on documentary evidence. they don't need to call a single witness to back up the charges here. it is a slam dunk. 15 years paul manafort is facing. that is a huge incentive for him to turn and testify and finger donald trump, jared kushner. ivanka trump. everybody else that's involved in this whole russian situation.