with them. some of them are even my friends. it's on the record. it's on tape. we've got it now. thanks, kent. >> i wanted to say one thing. whistle-blowers are usually the junior guy. so when we say over and over, he was so junior -- >> it's not a lot of ceos are whistle-blowers. >> the whistle-blowers are usually the little ones. that's how it works. >> poor papadopoulos he must be getting madder and madder by the day to the degree to which they throw him under the bus. >> former dnc chair donna brazile is out with bombshell claims against hillary clinton's former campaign. we'll break down her accusations with the one and only rolen martin. stay with us you're watching "velshi and ruhle" live on msnbc. ♪
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