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with them. some of them are even my friends. it's on the record. it's on tape. we've got it now. thanks, kent. >> i wanted to say one thing. whistle-blowers are usually the junior guy. so when we say over and over, he was so junior -- >> it's not a lot of ceos are whistle-blowers. >> the whistle-blowers are usually the little ones. that's how it works. >> poor papadopoulos he must be getting madder and madder by the day to the degree to which they throw him under the bus. >> former dnc chair donna brazile is out with bombshell claims against hillary clinton's former campaign. we'll break down her accusations with the one and only rolen martin. stay with us you're watching "velshi and ruhle" live on msnbc. ♪
gets going around 10:00 this morning on capitol hill. >> i want to bring in my panel, rolen martin, and former maryland governor, and a trump supporter, robert ehrlich. look at this, already making friends. i want to talk tom price. why tom price, would he be involved in trading any sort of health care stocks ever given his job? >> i don't know. you don't know -- >> i do. >> and the american public -- that's the purpose of these hearings. it's a very transparent process, and we will get a hint today and you will know more tonight. >> here's why. stephanie, he lied and you are trying to get paid and you are enriching yourself by virtue of your job, and this is a bigger problem with this town, they are exempt from the very rules that impact other americans and that to me is fundamentally wrong and
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i have said before they felt that the middle class tax cuts were being held hostage to the high end tax cuts. i think it's tempting not to negotiate with hostage takers. unless the hostage gets harmed. >> strong words by the president of the united states at his white house news conference earlier today. let's discuss it in our strategy session. joining us our cnn political contributors rolen martin and midge madeleine. the president was very upset with that phrase hostage takers referring to the gop. >> not an auspicious beginning to the bipartisan love fest. he called his own people sanctimonious. i never quote keith olbermann, but he said and he represents a
on a plane, getting ready to fly. npr fired for him. inbounds, out of bounds. should he have been fired? should he have had a chance to defend himself? joining us, eric erickson, and also rolen martin right here. eric, i want to go to you first because the right has seized on the issue and said cut npr, they won't do interviews on npr, sarah palin wrote about it on her facebook page today. where did they go wrong? >> to take a man like juan williams and fire him for a statement like that, and he finished that by saying you can't blame all muslims for the acts of a few. it was a legitimate remark to make. compare that to the remark
america's war with muslims is just beginning, first drop of blood. there's no way to get away from the facts, but there are people who want to remind us all as bush did after 9/11, it's not a war against islam. >> now, rolen, you were shaking your head. i have know juan for a number of years. he's a fair guy, a thoughtful guy, a straight-forward guy. a lot of americans rightly or wrongly have the same sentiments. they get nervous and feel guilty about it, but hiby human nature that's what happens. >> that's why i shook my head when he said these are the facts. that's your opinion. you're basing it on a typical stereotype. just as juan williams would be offended if he got to the elevator and he saw a white woman scluch her purse. also, if i see a white guy with a crew cut and some black boots