saying, we're an offshore law firm who advises clients on legitimate and lawful ways to conduct their business. we do not tolerate illegal behavior. appleby's board minutes contain a list of declined individuals, business leaders accused of organized crime. a powerpoint slide used by appleby's head of compliance discusses terrorist financing. some of the crap we see is amazing, totally amazing. so that's a problem. >> it goes back to the motivation of people who want to move their assets to tax havens and offshore havens that specialize in keeping secrets. i think if that's your business, you're going to have to vet your clients very, very, very carefully. >> it becomes more complicated when talking about gary cohn who