you control for everything else, it is really a function of the way in which the lines were drawn in 2011. >> so, i know that in this project you're working on ballot initiatives in some places to try to do nonpartisan redistricting. >> right. >> you're wokking on obviously public consciousness and awareness of these things. litigation strategy. also working on supporting individual democratic candidates in state legislatures whose election would be key in terms of what control of redistricting looks there. a comprehensive strategy i feel like gets at the different almosts to make it as a strategy. what i don't get is why this effort is going to succeed. i feel like i've heard so much democratic hot air on we got to work in the states. we have to work on redistricting and so many projects, launched that were going to do this. >> yeah. >> and never really seemed to. why does yours have traction? >> i think ours is organized,