congregation, cannot fathom anyone in his congregation voting for doug jones because of his stance on abortion. and the vibe he gets from people in his congregation, a lack of confidence in roy moore, and he said he personally plans to vote for the republican, he said many in his congregation will stay home. whether that has a large enough impact in such a republicanekals a question. can't get people out to the polls, could doug jones actually have a chance on december 12. >>? >> that's my question. good for doug jones or good for roy moore? >> reporter: the question what is turnout? democrats haven't had much of a reason. black voters, young voters, more democratic, haven't had a competitive election in years. there isn't much to judge based on really what does a high turnout look like for that constituency? doug jones, i said, in