you've just said we shouldn't release any sensitive information. is this going to be enough to counter the narrative or are we already too far down the rabbit hole to where people look and say i can't trust anything anyone is saying in congress right now. >> i don't know if it is enough to correct the record, given how the waters are polluted, to mix that up. something strange has happened. distrust is no longer a kind of one of the background context for political engagement. distrust is become political currency. and so you have parties leveraging distrust for their own political ends. so the republicans, the deep state republicans are leveraging distrust over deep state, the conspiracy theories to achieve -- donald trump is doing it, in order to provide cover for himself. democrats leveraging distrust of what republicans are doing. in order to make political gains. and so what happens to the policy when distrust is the currency of the day. so this is just one of the
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