counsel, tells the administration what to do about these clearances once they get the reports from the fbi, which does not give recommendations. doesn't don mcgahn have a bigger responsibility for these mess-ups? >> i think at some point -- and we're seeing this across all of industry. it's not just politics. as we're dealing with a number of these kinds of whether it be inappropriate activities or now the shocking abuse allegations, and we need to, as a society, look at how we view all of these things, whether we're in corporate world, whether we're in the public service areas. how do we respond to allegations, at what level does an allegation go beyond that? >> this is more than an allegation. the fbi had actual reports that were filed, police enforcement reports. there was a picture notably, which became very persuasive. this is what the vice president had to say to lester holt on the subject. >> i was appalled when i learned of the allegations against rob