right, jonathan lemire? >> yes, john heilemann. [ laughter ] >> it would have been great if he said no, you're wrong, you're a moron. >> everything's tool, airtight, no problem. >> what we saw yesterday is hope hicks, the president's -- one of his longest serving aides and one of his closest advisers leave the white house. in a nice moment. the president brought her outside the oval office, there was a hand shake, a kiss on the cheek, hicks has always shied away from publicity, had a moment in the spotlight and a nice good-bye. that's the exception rather than the rule when it comes to white house exits. she was not fired by tweet. she was not fired by a cursory curt phone call by john kelly as david shulkin was a few days prior and there's real anxiety about what could come next. there are cabinet members on the hot seat for ethics question whether it's carson or zinke or pruitt. there's a battle about the next