friendly to saying this is government misconduct if true. he says he is not fully aware of the details of this. he said he was about to call president trump to discuss the nbc news story. to figure out what's going on. he said that this could lead to a real evisceration, in his words, of attorney/client privilege, if an attorney was being wiretapped. so an angry reaction, defiant reaction from the former new york mayor. >> can i respond to that? >> yes, please. >> i find that incredibly ironic. i mean, this is rudy giuliani who served as the u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york for years during which i would dare to say there were thousands of wiretap applications made, thousands of wiretaps conducted, evidence procured, individuals charged, individuals conducted and sent to federal penitentiaries across the nation in response to evidence that mr. giuliani himself used by way of wiretap