>> i think it's viale. i'm glad to see the aclu taking the steps it's taking. it is a story repeated all over the country. just the other day in new york city, it was reported that i.c.e. arrests are up 65% or more since trump took offeice. this is delawavastating. r.s were equating gang members to immigration and tying that to democrats. it didn't work then. but my fear is that a lot of what you're seeing and a lot of this stress on these families is becoming normalized. that's what's so really delaw e devastating about these policies. >> lee, what is the aclu doing next? you were on the show as well last night discussing with chris what the case will be. give us details you are pushing