when when he was flying on a private jet. he investigated him twice as it comes to cohen. this is a bigger part of the russian collusion probe than was initially understood. >> that is absolutely right. what we need for a conspiracy, which is essentially what we'd be talking about, is an agreement between more than one person. trump would have to have some knowledge and connection to it, but he wouldn't have had to take any direct action personally necessarily if he knew about it, he knew about the criminal intent if there was criminal intent. and so this is some of the things that put us much more closely in that circle of potential conspiracy, which really is the brass ring for mueller. >> the brass ring. howard dean, that's a lot of the law. there is also the politics, which is the extraordinary way that the republican national committee is keeping cohen on board. take a look at this new today.