ashley, you and i have talked about this before. the president feels he does better when he's playing the victim. and this current strategy is fine until it isn't. what i mean is it's giuliani on television because there's no one for the mueller effort. they don't leak. they don't speak until they do. and it reminds you of the kind of terrible swift sword and the imbalance of power the government suddenly when they rise up and release another tranche of indictments or subpoenas, they get the power back. >> that's exactly right. so what you're seeing now is rudy giuliani is basically the president's television id, and it doesn't matter that he's a wildly unreliable narrator. he gives interviews where he says wildly contradicting things. he says in one interview, "i talk to the president every day." in another interview, he says, "i haven't talked to him for several weeks." the problem is, as you point out, mueller's team is silent. so he is now the only voice of