president after he repeatedly waffled last week over whether he believes russia attacked our election. however, sarah sanders said today that the president was not calling russian interference a hoax but was instead referring to allegations of collusion. >> so does he believe the interference was a big hoax or does he have faith in the intelligence agencies that have concluded definitively the other way? >> we maintain that russia interfered in the elections. the president, however, very much so and has repeatedly, as again have the rest of us, that his campaign colluding in that process is a total hoax and we still hold strong to that. >> he suggested overall that it's a hoax, though. >> president is referencing the collusion component. >> the president's reference. give me a break. joining me now is robert costa, political reporter for the "washington post." natasha bertrand, staff writer for "the atlantic." ken dilanian, national security reporter with nbc news, and david jolley, a former republican congressman from florida. i want to start a little out of