what they could not answer, and that's going to be involving exchanges with the president. what don't we want them to talk about, what are we okay with them talking about? this all goes toward a tremendous progress now toward obstruction of justice. >> and let's get in the weeds for a second, peter baker. this is also about saving don mcgahn from getting thrown under the bus should an incriminating report come out that finds that the president did objestruct justice. this has the effect, i don't know anybody's motive, but this has the effect of exonerating him in terms of crafting a strategy of cooperation. it makes abundantly clear that the strategy was created by ty cobb and john dowd. christy seems to be on board with the strategy. let's watch him from yesterday. >> this shows what a c-level the president had at the beginning in ty cobb and john dowd. you never waive that, absolutely not.