>> yeah. >> that this guy, sam, was also involved at one point with cambridge analytic. do those relationships endure throughout the campaign? i think his involvement was earlier. >> yeah. it's very interesting to see the threads overlapping here with all these various aspects. guy, i want your reaction. rudy giuliani talked about this plea deal today. take a listen to this. >> nothing to do with the president, nothing to do with collusion, everything to do with a lobbyist who acted improperly who the president doesn't know. so far every indictment is unrelated to the president. we went through an entire manafort trial, and there wasn't a single mention of the president. >> this is related directly to the inauguration. >> not is the president. >> giuliani here saying this has nothing to do with the president. when you're listening to the point that ken made earlier, which is that we don't know why these men pay $50,000 to attend the inauguration. were they just paying to party it up with d.c. politicians or