they had the democrats' game plan. it made it much easier. it's easier to get around opposition if you have the other party's memos and draft questions and research, et cetera. that was a big scandal at the time they got seized as evidence. people were referred for prosecution. so brett kavanaugh as a bush white house lawyer nominated to back judge, once they had him under oath, yeah. would get asked if he had any knowledge of it. he appears to have lied in response to those questions you -- under oath. >> did he ever share, reference or provide you with any documents that appeared to you to be drafted or prepared by members of the judiciary committee? >> no. i was not aware of that matter ever until i loerpd of --