here -- and this -- i think the lack of process is reflected in this. in bob's book, he talked about it with rachel. there are examples throughout the book. the president seems incapable of thinking. i know that sounds hyperbolic, but thinking entails absorbing information, considering the information, processing the information, and coming to some conclusion or output at the end. and instance after instance, he refuses to absorb information. maybe he can't even do so. and there is no process internally to match any bureaucratic or organizational process. and to me that's the mostly frightening thing. a guy with his finger on the nuclear button who is impulsive, egotistical and narcissistic doesn't seem to be able to engage in basic cognitive activity. >> and the world trade organization is a very good example of that. we heard bob woodward -- >> yes.