it's for automatic obvious reasons. i just heard allie raisman speak at a chicago foundation for women event about her abuse and why she didn't come forward and why all the other abused gymnasts did not come forward and it's on. so the obvious. there is no groups that any senator should be saying professor blasey-ford should have come forward, when she's doing it, it seems clear, only because she feels as a citizen, this is an important issue and although it will disrupt her life terribly. >> yep. >> it's the right thing to do. >> jim, thanks very much for joining me, for more on what needs to be done, i am joined by the founder of the #metoo movement, thank you for being with me. >> thank you for having me. >> jim winebanks was talking