my favorite scenes, favorite vignettes that i had to read twice in your book. first of all, when you bump into somebody in washington, when you tell them you have been engaged in this project and doing a deep dive immersion, and they ask you, what are russia's roots into trump, how deep is their reach, what's it about, what does it go back to, how do you answer that question? >> it's kind of a two-part answer you have to give at this point because robert mueller is not finished yet, and presumably he knows a lot more than we do. we're going to learn more by the time he's done. but we do know a lot already. we know that trump for years has sought business deals in russia, has tried to develop properties in russia. we know that his family, his own sons have referred publicly to the large amounts of cash that have come in from russia or his -- the trump organization's dependence on money from russia. there's been a lot of terrific