regret and much to my sadness, is we destroyed that balance of power, and we are living with the results of that today and probably will live with it for another decade or two, and the results are horrible. >> president bush valued the advice of colin powell. tell me a bit about that relationship. >> i think the proof of the pudding there was when powell was selected to be the chaim of the joint chiefs of -- first non-academy graduate, and that was all because h.w. bush had seen him operate as the national security adviser, and in the last year of his second term, and knew what a great american powell was, and wanted him to be his chairman. >> remarkable story. lawrence wilkerson, thank you so much. he served as chief of staff to