lynne patton is a woman who makes her own decision. michael cohen can look up there and say, really, should i really be lying about this? it has nothing to do with props. this was a friendship back in the day. the reason why we're here where we are right now, alex, michael cohen, he did other things he was not supposed to do. he started doing side deals and got jammed up by mueller. now he's going to prison. had he done the job as the president hired him to be, he would not be sitting in that chair, going to prison. that's the fact. everyone -- >> let me ask you one last question here, can i ask you this, wasn't michael cohen began those, sat on national diversity coalition for trump, did he start that? >> it was pastor darryl and myself. he was invited in because he wanted to be jewish americans for trump, his father was a