of vietnam. world war ii was far more commonly shared and led to a peace time or a cold war draft where one of the reasons we're so divided right now, i would argue, is that we don't know each other very well. we live in -- >> that's correct. >> we live in very secure silos and so you have to look back and think, what was that. my old boss charlie peters, has written a lot about this and thought about it. john kennedy, when he was on pt 109, was on there with a plumber from the bronx, a truck driver from iowa. people that john kennedy would never have encountered as the sion of massachusetts immigrant family and yet he understood, because he served with them, he understood that people were more complex and he knew, they knew
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