ones or living with the cancer. we have to invest more in cutting edge research and i'm advocating for $10 million in the defense medical research program. in the house they have increased it from 4 to 6, but this is still a tiny percentage of the amount needed in order to develop a new detection technique. >> when tia was diagnosed remember we looked into why -- like why isn't there more research, why can't -- you know, they do so much with breast cancer. and it's because of those odds. >> yeah. >> it's so deadly. >> we hear that it's difficult to raise money. we talked to people about raising money for pancreatic cancer and it's hard to do that because it's considered a death sentence. it seems to me this is exactly the type of disease -- the type of cancer that is suited perfectly for the nih to invest in. >> yes. absolutely. >> so what can you do, what can the senate do to actually invest more money in nih for it? >> well, first, joe, you know,