get here. and we're probably not going to see a big change in the crisis at our border if we can't find some way to help there be a solution back home in central america that will make conditions there possible or folks to actually stay. they're coming here because even having their kids in those centers and taking the risk of drowning is a better fate than what's behind them. >> well, and willie, as nick pointed out, this man wanted to present himself and his daughter for asylum. he has that right under american law. for those people that would say, oh, well, he shouldn't have been trying to come here illegally anyway, no, presenting yourself for asylum is legal. and it has been legal. it's what ronald reagan talked about in his farewell address to america that that's what represent america vibrant. and that's what also made us the last best hope for a dying