the aperture at the end of the hearing. from your testimony today, i gather that you believe that knowingly accepting foreign assistance during a presidential campaign is an unethical thing to do. >> and a crime. >> and a crime. >> circumstances, yes. and a crime given certain circumstances. >> and to the degree it undermines our democracy and institutions, we can agree it is also unpatriotic. >> true. >> and wrong. >> true. >> knowingly accepting foreign assistance during a presidential campaign is a crime in certain circumstances, according to robert mueller. it is wrong, it is unethical. coming from a person who said repeatedly today that he was blocked from justice department policy from bringing an indictment against the president, even if he had wanted to, you know, maybe that rings a little hollow for him to say, yeah, that might have been a crime. maybe it is, you know, just