defending itself in cyber security and specifically stops to make it a crime not to report foreign contacts who are trying to impact our elections. >> but it also seems to flow is an even simpler achim's razor explanation. he thinks it helps donald trump and the republican party retain power, that he wants to win again. it seems to me that to a lot of the republicans, it works the first time. they're now going to run again. they lost the popular vote by three million votes. maybe they can use a little help. >> sure. and obviously, no one is going to be held accountable for it if it turns out that russia does this again or china or iran or even worse. north korea, which has a pretty robust cyber warfare. >> they started the sony hack. they were the blueprint for this whole thing when they hacked sony.