Ringback me from beethoven challenge his musicians technically like no what the composer did before im very happy that he did because he wrote fantastic solos for the horn a World Without beethoven i cant even begin to imagine lute week fund. Beethoven shaped entire musical genres pushing boundaries and even breaking them he was a pioneer and not just when it came to music what would be missing today in jazz or film scores if it hadnt been for beethovens many innovations with the concert business as we know it even exist and how did beethoven change the role of the artist. What would a World Without beethoven look like thats what i wanted to find out so i visited musicians managers even politicians all over the world to trace his influence my journey begins with the most famous 4 notes in Classical Music and their enormous influence on popular music. He did something actually quite clever without making it too. To relentlessly. Battle it all started with beethoven and chuck berry. Chuck berry might not agree but rock n roll started here. The treat from beethoven needed just 4 notes to create an entire musical cosmos and one of the most famous compositions of all time. Based of its 5th symphony 1st performed in 1808. 00 is a global hit only for notes and they still challenge musicians today. Relentlessly going on with the bass guitar. Ian anderson from the band jethro tull also needed just 4 notes to write the 971 hit single locomotive breath. Brutal shango the rhythm guitarist for the german band scorpions raise the stakes. 5 no. Empty. Guitar as in rock you like a hurricane is one of the most popular in recent musical history. Surpassed only by the original. In his 5th symphony beethoven constantly varies the 4 notes through all the orchestral parts and keys. The simplicity of the idea amazed his contemporaries 150 years later the concept was rediscovered in england by rock musicians. Half. The kinks were among the 1st in 1964 with just 3 notes. A year later 3 notes were told the Rolling Stones needed to be and they still werent satisfied. Deep purple became superstars with these 4 notes. I the idea caught on in the United States as well and heavy metal was full of catchy riffs. These 4 notes shot nirvana to stardom in 1901. And the white stripes 5 notes have become a Global Football challenge. Faced over and discover the perfect formula for a hit song back in 1808. Weird one over at the expo park and im standing right in front of the very famous peppermint studios where inside the scorpions are rehearsing. Living out. Comes trying to get into the moon youre ready to. Do. With over 110000000 records sold the scorpions are one of the most successful bands of their generation. Wrote the bands best known guitarists. You know what i found i think this quote from the internet. Is the beethoven of hanover. Thats very flattering but there are worlds between us you cant take that too seriously but thats a nice thing i was. So happy when i read that its about if its a topic. It has to be played aggressive. Well yes right now we put a beautiful suspenseful node under a torn on. With a crescendo there like that just some suspense so many rock bands have stolen beethoven. Of course the subconscious always plays a role for example americans have been influenced by the blues the europeans the english and of course we germans especially oysters but have been influenced by Classical Music because its in our genes and. Thats why metallica are such big scorpions fans they said hold on a scorpion sound completely different guns weve got to check this out. They noticed wait a minute there are other influences and then they notice the influence of Classical Music because the blues shape you differently form isnt a gun it was very here can play the blues it all were shaped by Classical Music in such a way that we. This on melody and a certain with all of us to what was complete its an. Album steve rifts in my front yard i believe that the riffs are perceived differently over the decades and centuries in the past life was less hectic side of the subject is hot stock is nowadays theres an abundance of everything lies so you have to find something that is signaling effect that this is extremely important when done with and then you have to keep that feeling alive so that its not only there for a short time and dies off its a vocal chord style something hits or the one doesnt and when youre writing music you have to arouse curiosity who i know in order to keep to listen only. To us they might buy a starter blyde. The result short melodic grids which inspire audiences around the world. The flute is in andersons trademark he has been influenced by both english folk music and the greats of Classical Music. I was comparing the. Beethovens 5th to the Opening Statement as being. Typical of the the motif in music not just Classical Music rock music jazz pop whatever a motif an idea that is that is repeated very often as a repeating motif which then tends to be shortened to wrist the idea of a rift in jazz or rock is usually a rip a repeating motif of chord beethoven did did use that idea and develops that idea of that. And i would guess this is what happened with beethoven he wasnt sitting the mulling over the same few notes. He probably just went he probably spilled this coffee and accidentally went up a hole that sounds good which is the way most of us work. In a good rock or if i suppose is going to be simple direct its going to repeat because it is truly a riff not just a m o t for an opening gambit if you like a statement its usually a repeating phrase so that the you know the great rock riffs i suppose that come to mind so come to my mind perhaps one of the greatest ever would have been Ritchie Blackmore the wonderful ricin a piece called smoke on the water you know i love the one that was easy one that is this wonderful shuffle thing but a lot of back beat stuff that is called la grange should go. With repeats all the way through. Thats a great rock with very simple one to play just centuries its really 3 notes and in many ways you know its that same thing with the wonderful whole lot of love which is in the this key and that. Maybe beethoven you see and if he was born again today i dont really see him riding around in the stately family mercedes to us with 2 screaming kids in the back i think of beethoven more like an off road motorcycle guy you know getting a bit down and dirty in the mud that was my idea of the beethoven. Repetitive motifs have always played a defining role in music but beethoven amplified their impact and pop music is still influenced by him today beethoven have any idea that 150 years later musicians would continue to be so inspired by him i went to vienna where he became famous to find out more. In 792 beethoven didnt arrive in vienna as a celebrity on a motorcycle but as a young piano virtuoso in a horse drawn carriage he had already earned a considerable reputation in bonn and quickly became a well known face in v. N. His musical society. Beethoven clearly left his mark on the austrian capital. His homes are now museums and the places he worked on our sites of pilgrimage for his fans from all around the world. When he arrived in vienna as a 21 year old composition student there was no indication his arrival here would divide musical history. Into the world before beethoven and the world after beethoven. In vienna beethoven developed into an artist and composer of International Standing starting with his 1st symphony he demonstrated his systematic approach. Didnt start the symphony in the usual way with a thunderclap in the home key instead he broke all the rules by opening with a dissonant chord. Which initially leaves listeners in the dark. And then leads them astray. The opening circles around the symphonys actual key of c. Major but it never arrives there. Beethovens 1st symphony showed he was someone who hoped his works of art would stand the test of time no more short lived light music for the nobility instead masterpieces for europes increasingly music loving bourgeoisie. Beethoven was the 1st composer to consistently is sign his compositions opus number has symphony number one opus 21. He saw himself as an artist on the same level as the writers sculptures and painters of his day. And he set the highest of standards for himself and others. Earlier composers were guided by musicians abilities beethoven ignored them formulating precise notations in his scores for tempo dynamics and articulation. His art required trained professionals who dedicated long rehearsals to mastering his works and that required institutions that could finance those efforts. For. Something unexpected happened his revolutionary demands were met. Welcome to vienna for many the musical capital of the world and im here at the music satellite the golden concert hall. Today the vienna meaning Music Association is known for its legendary concert hall which opened in 870. 00 many consider it to have the best acoustics in the world and we all. No the Vienna Philharmonic orchestra is new years day concert which is broadcast every year live worldwide the music fine was founded in 812 with an idea that changed the world of music citizens joined forces to support v. N. His musical life beethoven also became a member but in his own way. Of sort of beethoven was commissioned by the association gazelles chef to music point to write a piece of music but he was quite unhappy with the text he had to work with all the Music Association gave him a text that he didnt want to set to music. But he went live busy for today god called the down payment and soaps and things dragged on the work was never created on beethoven was famous and it turned down others because he would be a deliver anything. Coming up in 300 of course you cant say to beethoven please give me the money back and so they did something that probably wouldnt be done today they decided he should keep the money and they would make him an honorary member and the 3rd from him to dig is a shaft the association has been active for so long until today and has such a big impact on the musical life in vienna how have you managed to be so influential for so long so sophie i feel so so hard and i certainly have. On the one hand we were the 1st but we didnt just hold concerts. Are founded in 812 there were but our main concern was actually a conservatory signal it was the only place in the whole austriahungary an empire to learn music to listen to study music thats conscious youre not the primary focus of this was only the 3rd purpose of cover it live alexia concert but just change a lot over time. This is like i know you have been artistic director here for 31 years you must have heard a lot of beethoven. Would you say its beethoven is a bestseller not delish of the shore when theres no debate of the most invasive and hes always extremely popular will see listening to his music using stream least popular and as you rightly say its a bestseller and for coughs flocka thats really what would you say is beethovens appeal why do people still adore coming to a beethoven cycle and sickles past the Classical Music does this is the pinnacle of Classical Music a kind of absolute to music music as i know very so neither you nor the association could imagine a World Without beethoven or gandhi forced recurrence of the counter touch of anything but if he hadnt existed we wouldnt know what wed missed out on a luckily he did and luckily we have. The concept of concert halls for professional musicians quickly conquered the world in the 19th century associations foundations and cities finance these temples of Classical Music architectural masterpieces. In 891 the 1st american temple of music opened its doors Carnegie Hall is one of the most iconic concert hall in the world and the 1st concert was an 8091 and just was on the program beethoven of course. Beethoven who else. Was. Planned. And then they all started coming to new york Richard Strauss celebrated some of his greatest successes here. Mahler conducted here. To see swing legend Benny Goodman were resold on the street for astronomical songs the beatles and bob dylans concerts on legendary if you make it to Carnegie Hall youve really made it but how do you get there practice practice practice. Literally i mean from the word go beethoven has been part of our life here as executive director and artistic director could you even imagine a World Without beethoven well the so many things about him i mean he was a revolutionary in every single way because if one thinks about how people wrote music and the context for music writing music before him you know where you were basically writing music for people most of the time you were told what you have to write you only had the one set of orchestra players yes you had your last resource but you also have to keep somebody satisfied whoevers paying you i mean beethoven didnt feel he had to satisfy anybody he only wrote what he believed in he every single form that he touched he completely transformed i mean every single aspect of what he did he changed music forever. What does the public like to hear the best from beethoven well i mean its interesting when i mean you as a player for me as i explained. I dont think theres any piece i played more in mind todd life than the beethoven 5th of a 7763 i mean those were on programs and its i mean it played over 300 times economy i mean it really got one piece and its hard its insanity just a bit you know so the fact is you could do a beethoven cycle symphony cycle pianists a lot of every single year year after year after year but the fact is its beethoven has an effect which i think almost no other composer does i mean which is you can always sell his music and people use it if you just think when the berlin wall fell its the beethoven that symphony in japan it has to be done every year around christmas all around the world it is a piece that symbolizes great moments in history it almost has to be played a great moments in history. The fact hes had been so many different ways but the tranquilly preparing the platform for the future but also in a way he was the 1st great romantic i mean even though he wasnt yet bad but he preferred the ground for the romantics completely because the whole thing of the emotion and the passion that he brought to everything so its every time change what do you think works best you put beethoven together with modern music is there is there any sort of formula you found just worked really well or does beethoven work best. As as a concert planner in the complete Beethoven Program you know were never thinking in terms of what works best what were thinking is what illuminates what so i mean the fact is yes you can put beethoven in the context of contemporary composers and you can put him in a Historic Context you can i mean almost i mean this is again whats fascinating. And you can put him in almost any context but basically you cant imagine a World Without beethoven thats truly unimaginable i mean i would love to know what a great composer coming off that is where they would building on so much of what he transformed lead with a. Bass over not only broke new ground with his compositions he also set completely new standards for the concert business and established music as an art form. And. Make you look at Something Like the sixtys when the arts were fundamental in america all the big changes that happened in terms of Race Relations acts womens rights gay rights all of these things the arts played a central role now beethoven was the 1st musician and the 1st composer who actually had a genuine social conscience and he was fighting for things that he really believed in his music is about revolution his about change its about always being utterly compelling in what you write never comfortable. Beethoven composed his 3rd symphony in Turbulent TimesNapoleon Bonaparte had overrun europe with war and brought the ideas of the french revolution to europes monarchies. Beethoven passionately supported the revolutions ideals of freedom Equality Fraternity his 3rd symphony the reflects that enthusiasm. Although napoleon even threatened beethovens adopted home of the n. The composer decided to dedicate his symphony to the french general a gesture he angrily took back furiously scratching napoleons name from the score when the military leader declared himself emperor. Score he wrote that the symphony was subsequently dedicated to the memory of a great man today is considered revolutionary a great symphonic achievement. That. Beethovens political convictions influence many of his other compositions. In 1805. 00 he wrote his only opera fidelio an opera of liberation its theme is the struggle of the individual against an overpowering to. So beethoven was a political composer. Can social critique and political commitment be expressed through music. Today beethovens 9th symphony is not only the official anthem of the European Union but also a symbol of freedom worldwide. And its been the soundtrack of great historical events including the fall of the berlin wall. To this day beethovens 9th encourages musicians to take a political stand there. Are. No war. Just. 9095 days theres only one real question in peoples minds as far as im concerned one decision to be might which side or you are. In the mid 1980 s. Billy bragg became the musical face of britains political conflicts. The coal miners strike had paralyzed the country for months the miners were protesting against pit closures and many people across the United Kingdom was showing their solidarity. In 19 eightyfour just started a career as a solo kind of punk singer songwriter when the miners strike how can you cope and the working class mobilized against Margaret Thatcher and suddenly i was in the white place of the right time to start a more ideological kind of political some wine and. Like many musicians of his generation the deeper had was influenced by punk rock which emerged in england in the late 1970 s. Thats responsible for one little choice i mentioned when i played the 1st big rock against racism festival in langley 970 i went along it was the 1st political act which might have taken part and that i changed my perspective on the world. I think by un can be a role model to die when i was tasked with writing a new english language lyric for the go to joy rather than try to translate directly schillers original pinewood just one line alan mentioned would all member become brothers as that universal idea of humanity a bit on that might my lyric is more or less an expansion of that idea and i think that it speaks to this down yogis whenever the joy is used its always that humanity that is evoked the joy of humanity in all its forms is there in beethovens nights and. Area thank. You. Thank you thank you. Currency of music what we do is empathy thats what we sing about when were trying to make people feel as if theyre not alone were trying to make people feel emotions for someone theyve never met perhaps all experiences that theyve never themselves have so thats what were dealing with again whether were political or not just i mean any someone whos dealing with that but if you match that empathy with activism if you encourage all these to become active. And you really are going to need to do something because if you mix and that they will actually read your solidarity. The. So is it the text or is it the music of the final movement of beethovens 9th symphony which has such a political impact. I decided to ask someone who knows his way around politics as well as beethoven not atlanta is one of germanys best known politicians he was president of the German Parliament for 12 years and hes a great beethoven for. Cindy do you think that the piece is powerful as a political statement more through the text and how does the music also have something to do with it bites try and find flaws in music and music or the influence that music and musicians have had on societal developing you know that is remarkable to especially in recent Human History dash butyl is going to be for been known to suddenly the connection between music and lyrics plays a rather decisive role in our shocking. New instrumental music i believe usually does not produce that kind of comparable immobilizing political effect that. Singer songwriters or composers manage to deliberately tackle political topics in tech was kind of cheesy much better results than politicians shuffle on text and also one does it seem to lead dinoire into is a 9th symphony is still a bold statement for many it was a statement i did a little experiment at the Brandenburg Gate and played the theme of the last movement of the 9th symphony for the tourists most of them said it was the european at them and not beethovens 9th symphony going to beethoven de mello deed is to the melody has become the european anthem without the work and has clearly become independent almost everyone knows the melody not everyone by a long shot if i can knows that. Its going to take. The venezuelan pianist Gabriela Montero lives in barcelona she has a skill that few classical pianist have mastered the art of improvise ation. Knowing the anecdotes of how beautifully and will sit down in improvise in the middle of those in the middle of his written works give me a sense that. Perhaps in the past the great genius is. I felt himself a license to see music as not something that was fixed but rather malleable. Gaboriau montero is also known for her political commitment shes a strong critic of the regime in her home country of venezuela. The iraqi. People often ask me why i became involved why do i talk about politics and such only things that i share sometimes if you were to look at my social media inbox you would see hundreds if not thousands of stories of venezuelans who have shared with me countless stories of horror of exile murder kidnap starvation family members dying for lack of medicine the most basic human needs are not. Enjoyed by the whole country. Be told i knew that music is a great amplifier and magnifier of underlying motivations his example of using the beautiful tool of music to tell a story to raise awareness and to leave an imprint in history telling us today what he went in he lived through at the time. Is something thats valid for all generations i think he was a great example of someone who not only some music as. A tool for joy or a tool for for static beauty but rather a tool for carrying a message that was perhaps even more important than just some writing something sublime yahweh. Was what was the most innovative thing about beethoven and laying out. The longer i delve into music in general and into beethoven in particular the more i come to the conclusion that the connection between tradition and innovation was the most outstanding feature for him does. One cannot seriously say that beethoven had nothing to do with the history of music the preexisting traditions are quite the contrary and converse league there is hardly anyone else who handles this tradition so confidently and then immediately blows it archived. Paint. Hey. Its incredible how much beethoven has shaped our music world. Thats the end of part one but beethovens influence reach into many other genres. Join me for part 2 will be looking at beethoven in the world of film music and. The. Mother. Let. Us. Play. Whats going on here oh no its a house of your very own from a printer. Computer games that are healing. My dog needs electricity. Just explains delivers facts and shows what the future holds oh yeah living in the Digital World shift. In 15 minutes on d w. And. 77 percent of. 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