U. S. Vice president ial debate the American People have witnessed what it would be great to feel you know of any president or administrator history mark from the from the very 1st good President Donald Trump to put the cold turkey for. Comma harris and my pants faceoff debate in issues ranging from the Supreme Court appointments to the climate but did they have any answers though. Im sorry kelly welcome to the program a leading Health Official in germany says that the spread of the corona virus could become on controllable if people do not stick to hygiene and distancing rules the warning comes as official figures show the number of new cases in germany has leapt with more than 4000. Its reported in the past day that rate has not been seen since april when the country was still in lockdown authorities have tight restrictions in high risk areas and they have warned against domestic and International Tourism speaking with the press today the head of germanys robert costa institute expressed great concern about the spike lets listen. To the Current Situation worries me a lot we dont know how things will develop over the next few weeks its possible that we will see more than 10000 cases a day and its possible that the virus spreads uncontrollably does he just used to do it for good and for more lets bring in Political CorrespondentThomas Sparrow who is following all of this for us from berlin did the German Government thomas mention any specific steps that they are taking sorrow what mr also mentioned immediately after that soundbite that weve just heard is that his hopes that germany will be able to control and reduce the numbers on by doing so that germany will avoid the Health System from being overwhelmed on this has been a particularly important element when you look overall at how germany has fared when it comes to the coronavirus pandemic because yes obviously these numbers are very concerning but at the same time germany has fared comparatively well if you look at other European Countries however there are areas of concern one for example that more young people are getting infected another one theres a 2 asian in big cities like right here in london in fact but they also are now in some concrete measures for example a nighttime curfew and also contact limitations on Germanys Health minister actually also refer to the Current Situation in but what he had to say about this specific situation. It is a step by step and we have to be careful not to undermine our success in dealing with the coronavirus. The situation here in berlin shows that callous and at times ignorant behavior during this pandemic can quickly change the situation for the worse and. Thats why i welcome the new measures taken by the city council. And in all of that thomas i mean it goes back to the message the numbers are expected to rise further though in the coming months what would germanys response be and what lessons have been learned from the widespread restrictions back in march and thats why the German Government has also been discussing the plan for the coming months in particular because the next few months will be colder months where people tend to be more indoors than outdoors one of the concrete lessons that was learned from a month of the pandemic was for example to separate patients in hospital between those who have grown out of virus like symptoms and those who dont that is something that also today in that press conference was clearly mentioned that need to separate patients and at the same time they have been asking people here in germany not only to keep social distancing not only to continue wearing their mosques as necessary but also to improve and increase the ventilation of closed spaces that is something that authorities not only now but also in the last few days and weeks have been very quick and very clear to point out that dach could be one very important and effective strategy to also help reduce the risks in the coming months in particular as yourself sara mentioned numbers could actually continue to rise something that is particularly worrying here in germany thomas authorities theyve also warned against domestic and International Tourism so can we expect straddle restrictions now in the future. That has something thats also been under discussion although officials were clear today that only a minority of those who get infected in germany now returning from other countries in particular from high risk regions they have said that a majority of those infected are actually infected in germany for example in parties or gatherings or also in hospitals and that why the focus now will be primarily in these kinds of infections and i said earlier also considering particularly the fact that more young people are getting infected Thomas Sparrow and berlin thank you now a new rapid antigen test is raising hopes for a quick self diagnostic here in germany the test checks saliva for the virus and it promises a result within just 15 minutes without the need for a lab or for a doctor the government says that it has secured a supply of 9000000. 00 devices per month and wants to increase that number but critics say they are far from reliable and i was our reporter found out not yet widely available as a down list i mean quite a lot of people and some of them maybe corona positive so today i want to try out the new and to test. And. Id like to buy an antigen test didnt do read for plan afraid i cant show you the test as things stand it can only be given out to medical stuff so you dont qualify you cant test yourself you simply have to go to the doctors and agree its kind of this. After this initial setback i find a doctor whos willing to let me do the test myself not the standard procedure yes. This is this is the packet containing the antigen quick test i only got this week ago so i had to read the instructions to this also a small sterile swab here no im not going to beat your comment your tongue down far enough you can use a stick to help im sure you can tell it is. Not that easy but for me definitely doable. Have you done both sides yes left and right afterwards the swap goes into a liquid which is then tricked on to the test when line means negative to mean positive of. As a result its pretty clear the tests are showing a negative result sibylla katzenstein thinks everyone should have a test like this at home. Which would be great for a moment for example whose child wakes up feeling sniffly but she isnt sure and is wondering whether she can take the child to school and go to work herself. If patients have access to a simple test they could do at home that will do use the pressure on doctors and laboratories and it would help a lot of people to decide what to do. But critics say the test is not sufficiently reliable heres how laboratory an antigen test compare when a person gets infected with covert 19 the viral load in the body starts off low increasing rapidly in the 1st few days and then decreasing as time passes a regular lab test can detect the fire a surly on with very little viral load the antigen test can only detect the virus later when the low just higher so does that mean i could actually still be positive despite having a negative result i asked a lab x. Parrish when he was asked if the viral load in the throat is not high enough to begin by the test that might result in a false negative and its the same if this was not done properly. And is intense and fast way of testing people but the test is less sensitive than others and cant completely inspect and to do tests can replace task but they can be a great home in the fight against cold 19. And for more on this lets bring in Stefan Willis he is the director of the institute. For social medicine epidemiology and Health Economics at the sherry tate hospital here in our land welcome to the program and thank you so much for taking the time to join us to talk with us about the importance of tests especially as we have heard that the spread of the virus right now is increasing in the country yeah the viral have been not a good is the reason some watch i dont think its really rory suddenly had but numbers are. Coming are so we have to watch our we have to cheer up to the established methods of crude rendition may be a social distancing namely those nose of traction and mating and of course the issue of tracking and tracing this will be the cornerstones of a Long Term Strategy know the testing of the 1st test of the rabbit to this it is a very Promising Development and the testing is currently on the go and validation and i would expect that it was in fuel we may be forced 56 weeks lease test will be made broadly available in the united be reliable and then will my life much easier and in many respects this charite where you arent as of course one of germanys leading hospitals and therefore id like to ask you about Hospital Capacity right now because weve heard the head of the robert cock institute with this pretty stark warning saying that the spread of the corona virus could become uncontrollable in the country can the Health System cope with numbers that do rise uncontrollably. I dont think this warning is justified particularly not given the current numbers not even in spring time. Hospital capacity and intensive Care Capacity it was was even remotely used in germany we obviously are well aware that in some cities in italy and spain and also france there are probably also u. K. Though it was a of there was a shortage but in germany there has never been a shortage due to give you a clear idea of the about 3 percent of intensive care unit capacity is used for a car with 19 patients in berlin and that is probably representative for journalists of 3 percent only there is huge capacity. I dont see in the forseeable future the Healthcare System could become. Overburdened. However she will be in to protect the hirers patients as good as possible so we have to make sure that preventive measures particularly if a home for elderly carry most and for hospital its that these protective measures work because younger people have in fact the majority of the population is not seriously affected. By the disease its the its its its the clearly defined high risk pool so if if really achieve an adequate protection for the high risk pool there is from my perspective nothing to worry in terms of getting close to the hospital pass thank you so much for joining us to share that that Expert Opinion and down and your expertise on this matter stuff and then i think as we mentioned youre the director of the institute for social medicine epidemiology and Health Economics at the shites a hospital in violently. Your art. Well with germany and other European Countries moving to contain a rising number of infections time is reporting the pandemic there is under control beijing says it has been in the pen and that it could have a vaccine ready by the end of the year well get more from beijing in just a moment 1st this report on a crowded train station yet people here are not afraid of getting infected there are currently just a couple of 100 active cases in china it has already celebrated its victory overcovered 19. Now china wants to be the 1st country to develop a successful vaccine. For companies have vaccines in stage 3 testing some trials could be finished by the end of the year. But several 100 people have already been vaccinated since july and initially it was military and Health Personnel but now its teaches trying conductors and generalists. We have completed preclinical an animal test that fulfills the conditions required to approve the product. For. Even though in fiction numbers are currently low in china experts say the country may well experience a 2nd wave of infections in coming months after the good times of summer and autumn has cited. And lets go to beijing now where correspondent is standing by for us. Lets talk a little bit about how close china is to coming up with a vaccine for domestic use and one that it could potentially use on the International Market where where are developments right now. Its of course very hard to assess chinas quite confident that they might finish phase 3 tests the tests in real epidemic situations that are currently under way until the end of the year and then that they could roll the vixie in out there are as weve just heard people who have already been vaccine and quite large numbers we dont again have a clear figure but this is something that has been criticized by epidemiology and immuno all knowledge is around the world because of exene should really be considered according to them safe only when phase 3 trials are completed and its also unclear whether soldiers for example would have a way to stick to to make a decision themselves or whether they could because to do that so there has been criticism but it shows of course also that that the chinese leadership thinks that it is on the way to having a big scene again many questions will remain. But the country clearly wants to be the 1st country to to bring a vaccine to the domestic and to the International Market and theyre pushing for this hard to speak with us a little bit perhaps more broadly speaking about the concern in china over the cove in 1000 numbers going up again. So what china has done so far is that it really seems to have brought the domestic transmissions under control we have almost no news about domestic transmissions anymore we have just completed an 8 day holiday Public Holiday where 5 to 600 millions people have been travelling most of the people you can you cannot really see them because its dark but most of the people around me here are tourists in traveling from other places so people have some kind of a confidence the borders are closed everybody wants to and has to undergo a 2 week mandatory quarantine and people are still thats the measures in place but overall the country seems to be confident that there is no outbreak around now in the country and these measures are there so there is of course awareness we have to use apps to register so people so the government could trace infections back people are still Wearing Masks and once something is found there would be strict measures in place quickly thats at least what has happened so far so there is no as sign that people are letting come down their guard completely but it is more or less relaxed at the moment he is pulling out in beijing thank you. The cost of virus of the economy has dominated the 1st and only Vice President ial debate ahead of the us elections republican Vice President mike pence and his democratic challenger senator kamel harris clashed from behind plexiglass over the trump administrations response to the pandemic other hot button issues where the president s choice for the open sea on the Supreme Court abortion and the ongoing unrest in American Cities after the recent chaotic president ial debate this seemed civil and much more orderly the 2 candidates seated at a safe distance divided by plexiglass barriers in the 1st and only Vice President ial debate both harris and pence seemed ready for filing to give every need to Vice President just like he interrupted me and id like to just finish the coronavirus pandemic was just one of many issues of contention between mike pence and Camila Harris the American People have witnessed what is the greatest failure of any president ial administration in history of our country undermining the pens who hits President Trumps corona Pandemic Task force on excess went on the defensive from the very 1st day President Donald Trump has put the health of america 1st before there were more than 5 cases in the United States all people who had returned from china President Donald Trump do what no other american president had ever done whatever the Vice President with the pandemic still affecting millions of americans leaving many worried about keeping their Health Care Coverage harris went straight on the attack if you have a preexisting condition Heart Disease diabetes Breast Cancer theyre coming for you. If you love someone who has a preexisting i say thank you they are nice and i marry you if the vaccine ends this response avoided specifics obamacare was a disaster for the American People remember well President Trump and i have a plan to improve health care and for preserve protect preexisting conditions for every american here that abortion also came up as always an important factor in american elections or in 4th. Im prolife i dont apologize for. This is another one of those cases where the search for dramatic contrast joe biden kamel harris support taxpayer funding of abortion all the way up to the moment of birth late term abortion they want to increase funding to planned parenthood of america issues before us can be more serious there is the issue of choice and i will always fight for a womans right to make a decision about her own body it should be her decision and