Was built. The gangster criminal system was built in russia. It feeds on war. Look at the economic parameters of wagners private military company. And all eight private companies that we know about today, they actually capitalize the budget of russia. They use it, they enrich it, they make money from it if they can afford it look, they have mastered the gold market today, the arms market, the drug market, the mineral market, and this influence will increase , which means that the topic of weapons of the economy becomes one whole, as soon as it happened in the previous era and times this clearly led to the unfolding of global conflicts and so, even supposedly far away, the actions of the niger sudan for ukraine are litmus tests for ukraine they are signals of how the situation is developing, and if we take such giants as china or india, then the question is, for example, the visit of li shanfu there or an invitation or not an invitation to ukraine for the next one, but is this a signal about how the situation is developing, where is it going , they are not exchanging us, mr. Roman well, and it is not about a global sale, so to speak, well, but certain interests that someone can neglect and we will not even know the last name of this person is the fact that the behavior of this person will depend on how much , i emphasize this once again, the military and Political Leadership of ukraine will be able to make a decision and, unfortunately, these decisions will already be of an exclusively naked nature here already we will not be talking about the economic state of the situation on the front line. That is, it will depend on such concepts as patriotism, devotion to ones homeland, and so on, that is , in fact, the situation in which ukraine, the continent, the european world is today is extremely complex, and in order to get out of it , find a solution in this situation , the civilized world must either unite or cling to the anchor which can , whose role can be played there, Great Britain in the United States of america, the European Union , i. E. Those who can claim global a game for global participation in the new redistribution of the world that could be held by the chief of Defense Staff of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland , admiral sir tony rada king, he came to kyiv, what he could bring, in fact, i was very pleased with this meeting and the one held at the commanderinchief of the armed forces forces by their colleagues and Great Britain , germany, this indicates that this cooperation reaches the level of unification of understanding of militarytechnological, remember, we said that it is only a matter of time entry into this war , the generals are already entering this war, but god give them the sense to enter the army into this war as soon as possible, because it will speed up the formation of a response, the absence of this entry, it will drag out the war , in fact, forgive me for what i will say, but hmm, a duel between ukrainians and this axis minsk, moscow, tehran, beijing, she is talking about the fact that it is unfair, first of all, next to the ukrainian soldier should be the soldiers of all these forces and states that stand on the side of the civilized world, and this visit , which you said, is a signal that we are going to this is actually the case today, and a ukrainian officer, a ukrainian soldier, shows how to resist global evil. Many of our allies do not even understand that this is global evil, because they continue to think in terms of local age, local war, local conflict. Well , it is a great pity that i have to end our conversation with another grateful to ana and mr. Roman for this frank conversation on the air of the espresso tv channel. Roman immortal iconic ukrainian diplomat and politician thank you thank you ukrainians romanticize freedom this is how it happened in our tradition will freedom all this is like air something you cant touch but without it you cant breathe and on the one hand its really like the classics than because not a zloty, comparing all the gold against freedom, it is just a swamp, but only now, when they try to conquer us again , not metaphorically, but literally, when they try to capture or destroy. And we are paying, the war continues and not only for territories, it is also a war for minds russia is throwing millions of oil dollars to turn ukrainians into little russians ukraine will become russia analysis and analysis of information about ukraine by russian propagandists concrete facts and methods by which hostile propaganda transforms people obedient zombies to the information attacks of the russians in the project of the chronicle of the information war with olga len tuesday thursday friday at 17 10 on the espresso tv channel our current guest is andriy piontkovsky, a political scientist who is in washington glory to ukraine andrii andriyovich i congratulate you as a hero glory to the good section extremely important visit of the minister of defense of china leagues of shanfu moscow minsk and here is the key story of what he could come with , in particular, he will try to convince to put pressure on the brain in order for it to reduce the level of aggression or vice versa will try to use the Current Situation and gradually, for example, try to capture the same military Industrial Complex of belarus, and maybe there are some additional options well, its not for nothing that now they are strengthening the defense of natos eastern flank, in particular, they are talking about possible russian provocations from the territory of belarus, well, actually, the 15th is lying, the chinese minister does not understand that lukashenko has been playing china for a long time, as if behind putins back, but he understands that today already putin, in general, all russians were in communication there for 20 years, turn him into the secretary of the minsk regional committee, he desperately resisted this and found such a person, what is the height, and he considers the territory of belarus, in principle, as the remarkableness behind such a hap chego penetration, well, first of all, the economic penetration into europe, therefore, to some extent, china plays the role of guarantor of lukashenkos jewelry existence in relation to putin, and as for the possibility of aggression against the states, there is no, well, this cold pay putin, do you think russian babysitter all about the possibility of war lets see, after all, there is one ukrainian army, more or less. Yes, but not as much as we would like, sorry, we use ukrainian weapons. Well, lets say that the people are considered as video со вtрое время. At least one polands potential will be presented, it is assumed that tomorrow poland and ukraine will fight against russia with armed forces. And this is not to be sought by a bicycle. Blackmail is easier. But this blackmail is easier. It will probably start with the favorite exercises of lukashenko and putin, they will throw emigrants , er, adventurers, er, anyone, that this time we poles will respond more decisively, you will just lie down dear people crossing the border and if after that, this is an evacuation it is the poles who are ready to raise rates and introduce their own weapons. We are also considered in our actions and statements, and what is happening is that quite strange signals are received, they are regularly refuted. In a norwegian newspaper there was a huge refutation from nato that there will be no exchange of ukraines accession to nato. So in exchange for our sovereign territories captured by putins fascists, you know, i would do nothing he also says, i understood what, why, this is happening. Well, impressed, lets say, the instant reaction to this, on all trucks, the negation of this unfortunate norwegian official, it was interpreted by the headlines of the Norwegian Press , they will exchange the territory for nato. That in ukraine there have already been versions immediately that this is not accidental bitterly accidental it is a special nato policy testing well what do you need everything where are they soviet personal security everything they cant decide. Why is this happening . It has changed in general. The atmosphere of the washington negotiations was grabbed by the hand, and this group was fought and paid for the hand by some remarkable, as i have already mentioned, ukrainian goldfinches who obtained and published about such negotiations. Second check socalled negotiations. Lets play russian cheap putin in moscow scandalous negotiations and now, too , were getting watered down he doesnt declare every day, we dont wash the relations of the mission emma well , its the same as the famous film 17 moment of spring, remember this story, when the feat of this soviet showmans chance is the negotiation of the union of states with hitlers ray and ham, when general ss wolff licked the american boots for a long time and boringly with his tongue, asking , help us to appear good, but in simple language , this happened in switzerland. By the way, the general is ses wolf, he survived a lot of things and died at the end of the 70s or in the 80s. On the 27th of the brain there will also be an opus, it seems that the modern wolf attacked and continued to play in ukrainian for a long time. Well, uh , russian, who was higher, the negotiation , the translation, the first meeting, we play by the rules in new york, on april 24, remember when it was a shameful day for the organization of the white nation when the wolf came to preside over i am not a criminal at the meeting of the security site on the same day when it was a joke i was suddenly forced to run away we know nothing nothing our principle is nothing in ukraine without ukraine they are repeating it now every day, moreover, therefore, it is not by chance that this is a reaction to the uh, unsuccessful formula for a trip to the norwegian officials of nato , uh, moreover, the tonal express has changed, and this is very important for our existence. I will stop for a bit. We are with you. The main thing about the players of the American Press was, well, the ukrainians are already talking about aggression. There is something, but they will never be able to kill the russians. Models and the ceasefire, what part of the territory remains in putins hands, and he is selling his deepseated people as an honorable draw and a victory for women, and he remains in power, this was the concept, but after this, the shelling of the war did not change , but in the last week, i forgive attention in the largest newspaper, both republican and so little of the greek party, the god of all wives, it interfered with both wives again, the article of boltana was just uh, attacking this concept , and they took me down, who strives not to it will be allowed in the country it will not be allowed it is time for the first one well the republicans part of the republicans will now actively grab the democrats by the lash, so to speak, accusing them on the eve of the president ial elections. This is a chance for us. In connection with the secret negotiations from the future, or for the negotiations in graham in moscow, so there is a new nation such that yes, this offensive will not lead, of course, this phase offensive will not lead to a complete solution to the full question the liberation of the spear territory and you recognize it because there is no aviation, igor, not because the ukrainians, according to which, well, before we gave alcohol, we gave everything necessary, remember , its just that we dont have it further. They are forced to back down and this is a great victory for ukrainian diplomacy in your opinion, could the russian kremlin introduce those negotiations so that they end specifically on putin , well, access is shoigu, access is patrushev, and in general , the criminal russian radbes. Well, you know , many people call patruyushev. Beautiful, they stood behind him much more. Beautiful, so that the Southern Military district with the deputy of the ukrainians of the game alekseev, who seems to have been sucked into africa after this, and of course the fsb , because the fsb markings should have been there. Thats why im marking this figure, you know, theyre not all not high intellectually, its already a finished idiot , listen when he does something somewhere , remember how he used to talk with a happy face in the middle of the day about what the council is active two clouds, this is sour cream, after a warehouse of shells exploded for it, for it, for combined uranium. Well, thats it, and he could see that he believed in it. And thats the same data, all the idiots, you know, the head of the Foreign Intelligence Service at ryzhkin, that he began to carry only a woman, too he believed in that nonsense, which does not exist at all, about the fact that god created in the end not pa gods likeness to his match now, some western perversions, deneologists ask, asked their own to rape him, he is afraid, he is afraid of europe , he goes there for his land. Well, this is nonsense or чtо ольга, lets take two reasons and tasks of the dream, tell me the confusion. What is the reason for our war, in order to liberate our tribesmen and in order to prevent strikes on moscow and crimea, moscow krym sejjak kajdy kajdy khohody only who is such an umneedor. It seems to me that mainly this uh, the conspiracy is on the shoulders of Yuriy Kovalchuk , the person closest to putin, and the blogger , the google taxi driver, the one who, with his ego, ventured on this idea , after negotiations, andriy andriyovich, then he would try on the uniform of general wolf. Well what do you read, watcher, here are these thunder talks, they are published in a magazine, there was no newspaper, a maritime theme, and in russian, in my , in my, several. And in the four republics of these socalled adopted in the constitution, the constitution of russia is now held by new referees to which people came out well, let your deputies who are never like that his interlocutors directly tell you, i was sitting opposite, standing in front of me , how do you need eight roses . I agree, putin and others always talk about the fact that putins status has changed dramatically after that , its not difficult. Liberating putins power, understanding the senselessness and doom of the war that he left all the time embellishes his speech and interprets the waterman alarmingly as such a hawk who fought against the soft putin so that they would still lead hard, well, read his speech , he is not only interested in shoigu, but they dont talk, they didnt talk we unleashed this mindless war for you, these people sat on the side of which you asked, well, it is possible to say personal, and the kremlin in general , they sat opposite, they told him yes we agreed with your bad opinion, but putins obstacle is that he wants to continue, he writes nicely, he is afraid that even everything is very much a conclusion, well, such an honorable nifilia, anyway, he will not hold power, he will be held by you, and while the war is going on and the grm is ending, it is different, as if he reports that we are the leadership, i think that we need an operation of these people who are ready to go to sport and, as far as i understand them , putins resistance is ready to remove him, that s all thats left for us to do is simply to pin down who sat there and who are these people, and the makhachkala scenario is generally characterized by expansion, in your opinion, will anyone say that with every new situation , it will be better, and especially if putin is crazy, something is going to happen in september , mobilization. The war is about 10 of the population to such convinced zet fascists who demand there to destroy , destroy , transform kiev, which is vandalized and so on, about 10 the same here, 15 defeated opponents of the war 80 of the people who, yes, marchyk would simply watch the victory parade on khreshchatyk, but now the main thing for them is not to become five meats, many russian assaults, the socalled offensives, which he did not understand , therefore, with announcements of mobilization, therefore , he delays until the last moment, simply explodes this mass and these makhachkala events well , thank you, andriy andriyovich, for this extremely interesting conversation, and i want to remind our viewers that now the iconic andriy piontkovskyi was working for them on espresso a political scientist who is in washington, thank you, thank you, anton, until next time, the time of our program has run out, stay tuned to tv channels and the press. 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