Now. Elizabeth thank you so much for joining us. Joining us now, former speaker of the house and New York Times best selling author of the great new book march to the majority the real story of of the republican revolution, newt gingrich. Lets get your reaction to Governor Katie Hobbs saying arizona should deliver a possible fifth indictment against former President Trump in what do you think . Well, i mean, she can say it all she wants to, the fact is all these indictments are about politics, not a single one of them is about the law. And i think the public understands that. The last i saw yesterday trump is now at 60 support for the nomination. He will probably become the republican nominee on the 6th of march after the california primary. And all the democrats are doing right now particularly with the9 biden problems is theyre proving what total hypocrites they are, that this is not about the law. This is about politics, this is a form of warfare against the person most likely to win the presidency. Weve never seen anything like it in american history, and i think its not just at the level of trump. You have a democrat attorney general in michigan who has indicted an 81yearold woman for agreeing to serve as an elector. I mean, think about how sick that is. So this whole thing, i think, is the greatest constitutional crisis since the civil war. Elizabeth thats some serious stuff. Sir, lets listen to governor hobbs here. Watch this. [inaudible conversations] absolutely. I have been an advocate for holding folks involved in trying to overturn the [inaudible] accountable [inaudible] elizabeth okay. But now her office is putting out a statement taking that back, claiming she misheard the question. But the point is arizonas attorney general, chris mays, is reportedly still investigating trump. So in your point of view, will voters see through this, that a lot of this is just politics . Yes. Elizabeth its careerism . Its not careerism, its a vicious partisan war by the left to try to destroy the person who is the greatest threat to their corrupt system. Just take georgia. Stacey abrams was the democratic nominee for governor, she said 30 times that brian kemp didnt win. Do you see the District Attorney of Fulton County indicted her . Yet she clearly disavowed the result of the election. Case after case, the al gore electors in florida who were alternate electors, they did exactly what people are being indicted for around the country by the democrats today. None of them were indicted because people back then had common sense. What youre watching is an act, frankly,ing of political warfare. It has nothing to do with the law as weve known it, and anybody who attempts to intercept these things as though they involve the law misunderstands the point. One of trumps indictments is over the 1870 ku klux klan act in south carolina. Now, does anyone seriously believe that the congress in 1870 by the way, only republicans voted to abolish the ku klux klan. Every democrat who voted, voted against the u. S. Government stopping the ku klux klan because back then the democrats were the party of slavery, segregation and representation. Repression, and you look at that and you say to yourself, you know, jack smith is crazy. Which he is, by the way. He was rebuked 80 by the Supreme Court when he went after government robert mcdonald, basically for having lied about the nature of the law. So what were seeing in d. C. , in miami, in new york, in Fulton County and maybe certainly with the attorney general in michigan, were seeing a concert leftwing effort to use the law as a weapon with of destruction and to do things that are clearly political and not legal. Elizabeth you know, the Fulton County d. A. , fani willis, shes asking for a march 4th trial date for the fourth indictment. Thats the day before super tuesday, eight days before georgias primary. She launched a Campaign Fund raising web site just days before the fourth indictment. So when you stack this all together and were going into the 2024 campaign season, how does this play out with voters . I mean, were still seeiing you know, the trump indictments square pretty much in line with any bombshells coming out about the biden family corruption probe. Lets show that timeline. So how does this play out . Well, i think, first of all, republicans have to understand that theyre in a political war that is extraordinary and unlike anything weve seen since the civil war. The Georgia Legislature should have a special session and, frankly, disbar her. And she has violated so many rules and is acting so inappropriately, she shouldnt be the District Attorney. The u. S. Congress, frankly, ought to cut off the money for jack smith and just make it impossible for him to function after september 30th. They should also, in my judgment, they should go ahead now and get the financial records of the Clinton Foundation which will show far greater corruption than joe biden. And i noticed today that chairman comer has discovered in one of those really weird breaks you couldnt write in a novel that a staff person had written to set up a call to a secret phone on behalf of the Vice President then and the president of ukraine. It happened to come out as a pure accident, and now we know that apparently joe biden had a secret phone which was probably paid for by Hunter Bidens company, and we dont yet know what all the calls were made to it, but that phone now that we know it exists when we get the number, at t has all those records, and they should be subpoenaed. Were going to be shocked to find out but remember, what you have at the National Level is obama corrupting the Justice Department and the intelligence service, hillary realizing shell never be tried for anything so she engages in massive, millions of dollars for Public Policy, and joe biden looking at all that going, wow, you can get away with it, why not . So he uses his son hunter as a bagman to go around the world collecting money. This is the most corrupt system in american history, and i dont believe its going to survive, because i think the American People the more they learn, the more offended theyre going to be. Elizabeth speaker gingrich, come back soon. Love having you on the show. Thank you. Elizabeth thank you so much. Now lets bring in former doj official Francey Hakes and former utah congressman jason chaffetz. You just heard with newt gingrich, first to you, francey. So joe biden had a secret burner phone. Also House Oversight chair comer now says joe biden was using false aliases, fake email names in his dealings about ukraine during the Obama White House while his son was making money in ukraine. What do you think, francey . Well, you know, liz, i think its utterly outrageous that the fbi had Hunter Bidens laptop in 2019 and the opportunity to start an investigation based on the probable cause contained inside that laptop. Hes got probable cause all day long for a myriad of corrupt offenses including money laundering, pay to play, influencing Public Officials and Public Policy for money. Youve got evidence inside that laptop that was in the possession if of the fbi four years ago. Why are we just now hearing about it in the fact that you have a special counsel now appointed and the fact that you had david weiss looking into hunter biden for all these years and all they managed to say that they find are a couple of misdemeanor tax charges and some gun offense in are you kidding me . This is outrageous. Everyone in the country should be frightened of the omissions here by the department of justice and the fbi in addition to the commissions that appear to be going on with the nowspecial counsels office. Elizabeth given what francey just detail ask outlined, jason, james comers also demanding the National Archives turn over all the emails joe biden had about ukraine, burisma and with hunter biden. Have you ever heard any Vice President use fake email names . I mean, bidens pseudonyms were robin ware, robert l. Peters, have you ever heard a Vice President doing this . Well, first of all, franceys exactly right, and they should provide these documents. And its an absolute dereliction of duty for the department of justice to not pursue to the fullest account what the obvious evidence was that was sitting in front of them. I have never heard of an elected official certainly at that level using those fake names other than to deceive people. To do that for official business or to enrich his own family which is, you know, one of the allegations that the committees looking at, is highly suspicious. To try to do it off the books, unofficial channels, the committee should absolutely go after that phone and all the telephone numbers. There is evidence within the laptop that Rosemont Seneca had purchased a phone that joe biden was using to conduct business on. Thats the allegation, and the committee should provide those documents both from the National Archives as well as, as well as the white house. Elizabeth so is jason weighed in there, francey, james comer is saying in may to 2016 biden forwarded to his own fake email account, his robert l. Peters account, information about his upcoming white house meeting with thenukrainian president poroshenko. Comer wants to know why he ccd hunter biden on that email. Hunter bidens Text Messages claiming he paid joe bidens expenses and bills for the past 11 years, all of this comes as senator Chuck Grassley released that unverified fbi informant document about alleging that hunter and joe biden accepted bribes in ukraine. So now weve got burner phones and fake emails. How does this all stack together, francey . Well, i mean, its blindingly obvious for anyone that the it shows youve got something corrupt and criminal, and lets use the word that fani willis are here in atlanta used, an enterprise going on to enrich the biden family at the expense of we, the American People. And it seems to me, liz, that joe biden learned this at the knee of Hillary Clinton who did something very similar when she used a private email server in what looks to be a scheme to defeat the public from knowing what as secretary of state she was talking to people about. Routinely. I guarantee it wasnt yoga routines, it was Clinton Foundation business. So biden has taken her example using burner phones and fake emails which is absolutely a a glaring red caution sign for criminal behavior. I dont have a burner phone, ive never had a burner phone, i dont use fake email addresses, i only have one llc, and its Francey Hakes consulting so everyone can know about it. Any idiot inside the government understands that this is a scheme to enrich the bidens. And the fact that the fbi is just whistling past the graveyard is just shocking. Elizabeth so, jason, House Republicans are trying to build an impeachment inquiry possibly after labor day, and theyre talking about a case that will hold up in court. Doesnt sound like just an inquiry. Final word. They should pursue that, they should vote on it, the full house should pursue the impeachment inquiry. Thats not impeachment, but gives them the investigative tools so that they can withstand the, you know, going before a judge. Thats important. Elizabeth fran city headaches, jason chaffetz, thanks for joining us. Its good to have you back on. Still ahead, we have a judge really editorializing in an odd way in court accusing elon musk of withholding data from special counsel jack smith to, quote, cozy up to former President Trump. And weve got attorneys for the tuohy family, randy fishman, we also have former facebook analyst Kara Frederick, a virginia mom and maui resident, also forbes media chair steve forbes coming up. Americans not liking bidenomics, but senator Chuck Schumer, hes claiming americans wont even remember their own economic pain a year from now. Really . Were all going to get amnesia . Thats coming up. What do we always say, son . Liberty mutual customizes your car insurance. So you only pay for what you need. Thats my boy. Stay off the freeways only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. bobby my store and my Design Business . Were exploding. 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Because its so big, energy is so big, its like allencompassing, everything. We would have made a fortune. And it was so sad to see what they did, they cut it off. And, again, we were drilling much more. We were a bigger force than russia and saudi arabia individually. Elizabeth well, hook whos here, my former boss, forbes media chair editorinchief, steve forbes. Good to see you again, steve. Good to see you. Elizabeth do you agree with former President Trump . Oh, hes absolutely right. This administrations waging war against fossil fuels for ride lodge ideological reasons. The idea that wind and solar is going to replace oil and gas is preposterous. Theyre trying to get rid of the automobile, that is preposterous, it would throw the world into a depression. So theyre making us more energy dependent on very unnice people like vladimir putin, our friends in saudi arabia and elsewhere, venezuela. If so i think the American People are going to react to it. Weve got the energy here, we can do it cheaply, more cleaner than anyone else in the world, and this administrations thrown it away. Elizabeth and making us dependent on china for green energy. You know, steve, this Mortgage Bank bankers association, a third of americans are borrowing town their home equity to pay for other debt. I want you to listen to to senator Chuck Schumer. Hes saying, well, you know, a year from if now americans wont remember this economic pain. Somehow theyre going to get amnesia. Watch a cnn fact check and listen to walmart officials talking to wall street on how consumers are pulling back because of inflation under biden. Watch this. As a global retailer, we see how our customers and members are affected by whats happening at a macro level and how that influences their behaviors. Resuming student loan payments, higher borrowing costs and tightening lending standards and a drawdown in excess savings mean that Household Budgets are still under pressure. When you put all this together, we see families that are discerning about what theyre spending on. Theyre setting priorities and spending on the things they care most about. By a year from now, people will know the economy is strong. You know, joe, you mentioned the economy is strong, but its often a hagging indicator. People still remember 68 months ago, but by next summer they wont. Sometimes President Biden just cannot stop himself. During a speech today about the economy, he told at least two lies that have already been debunked. Elizabeth so thats the game plan for democrats . Senator Chuck Schumer says, you know what . Wait it out, americans hurting in this economy now in. Happy days are here again, not. I think what theyre counting on the massive spending in those bills, especially the socalled inflation reduction act. Talk about lies. And they think that that massive spending is going to gin up the economy, give good growth figures. The way they compute gdp is rather peculiar. They count Government Spending as a miss for the economy even though the government as a plus for the economy even though the government gets the money by withdrawing it from people or creating it out of thin air which is a tax on people and higher prices. They think the way gdp is concocted will make the economy look better than it is, but every time people have to do a budget around the kitchen table, theyll see things are not good, and theyll say no matter what the government is saying, were having a hard time, and we dont see a better future. Elizabeth you know whats really interesting, a new nprmaris poll, trump is beating joe biden among independents by 8 percentage points, but youve got biden on the campaign trail using his curious and odd signature whispering voice, hes claiming inflation is going lower. Has he been to the gas pump . Has he borrowed to buy a house as mortgages are headed Mortgage Rates going above 8 . Has he borrowed on his credit card in those rates are going above 20 . This is the highest e rates