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kids don't need screens to be healthy and have fun. access to social media and smart phones means they can be exposed to things like violence, unhealthy beauty standards. apps keep them awake at night and scrolling which interrupts sleep which is really important. delaying access to these device is the first thing the parents can do. the second thing is that kids should go outside and play. they really need unstructured play time in the outdoors. so pe parents need to go out of their way to make sure get these experiences and model that by putting devices away. >> ainsley: i talked to one mom who didn't allow her daughter to have social media. she said she was the last one and her daughter created an account without telling her. ainsley, when hayden gets old enough you don't want to be the first but you don't want to be the last. do you agree with that? >> our kid might pitch a fit when you make them put their phone down and certainly my children also thought they were the absolutely the last children in the entire state not to have phones. [laughter] >> of course we keep hearing